Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:24:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jun-Hui Zhao 
To: Jean Turner 
Subject: Re: installing miriad
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Hi Jean,
      Attached is the figure (postscript) of the CO(3-2) line flux
integrated from 260 to 500 km/s (contour image) that is superimposed
on the 345 GHz continuum (color) of peak flux density at 40 mJy/beam
(FWHM=4"x2").
      I'm editing the script to make the imaging part work for the
CARMA version's miriad. Then you can play the calibrated data on your
Mac.
      Jun-Hui
>
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Jean Turner wrote:
>
> > hi Jun-Hui:  we were looking at CO3-2. we used a standard setup, as far as I know. we expect
the CO3-2 to be very weak, so i don't think any other lines are likely to show up. so we are
primarily interested in the continuum. if there is continuum also at 230, that would be great. the
emission probably covers a fairly wide area. --Jean
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jun-Hui Zhao" 
> > To: "Jean Turner" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:14:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: installing miriad
> >
> > Hi Jean,
> >     I will get you there via Miriad although I'm not good and had
> > trouble with the data-reduction path of IDL/miriad that Alice has
> > been used.
> >     I noted that you used two-band receivers (340 GHz and 230 GHz) in the
> > observations. Which band you needed? or both bands?
> > Also, are you only interested in the continuum? Or both lines and
> > continuum?
> >     If you could provide me the names of your target molecular line
> > transitions, it would be great.
> >     We are getting there.
> >     Jun-Hui
> >
> > On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Jean Turner wrote:
> >
> > > hi Jun-Hui:  "N5253se" is the target source, yes. I already have calibrated data, Alice was
kind enough to send me that (and fits) but I need to map it now. So it is the imaging that needs to
be done. I am looking at the other msgs, with the forms that are needed for the account, now.
--Jean
> > >
> > > From: "Jun-Hui Zhao" 
> > > To: "Jean Turner" 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:16:49 AM
> > > Subject: Re: installing miriad
> > >
> > > Good enough, I can look into the raw data. Is N5253 your target source?
> > > Hope we can have an account for you and by this afternoon you can handle
> > > your data in Miriad at least on the CfA computer system. Otherwise,
> > > we will provide you a calibrated data via ftp and you can play with it
> > > on your own MAC.
> > >         Jun-Hui
> > >
> > > On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Jean Turner wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jun-Hui:  is this what you need? I can send you back the calibrated data if you need it.
> > > >
> > > > 110417_062938_N5253se_miriad
> > > > 110417_085230_N5253se_miriad
> > > >
> > > > Jean
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jun-Hui Zhao" 
> > > > To: "Jean Turner" 
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:02:22 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: installing miriad
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jean,
> > > >      Can you send me the filename?
> > > >      I can start to find an example script which fits
> > > > to your data while I work out your guest account with
> > > > Shoshana at RG.
> > > >      Jun-Hui
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Jun-Hui Zhao wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Jean,
> > > > >
> > > > > > dear Jun-Hui:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks for getting back to me so quickly. i already have calibrated data;
> > > > > > i just need to do imaging on it now. i tried AIPS but there are some
> > > > > > problems with that although it does read the data, but it won't map
> > > > > > because of the wide bandwidth, so i thought i would try miriad. plus
> > > > > > there are existing imaging scripts for miriad.
> > > > >
> > > > >      Good to know that the IDL output has problem in FITS too.
> > > > >      The pronlems from IDL/aips and IDL/miriad have generated
> > > > >  so much trouble and confusion not only to SMA users but also to ourself.
> > > > >      Sorry for the confusion.
> > > > >      I will help go through the reduction from Miriad.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > here are some answers to your questions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. uname -a gives
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.18-238.12.1.e15 #1 SMP Tue May 31 13:22:04 EDT 2
> > > > > > 011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> > > > >
> > > > >        The Readhat version of your system appears to be higher than that
> > > > > on my desktop, which is good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (literal transcription, it ran over onto a 2nd line apparently)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. the lsb command did not work. ("lsb: command not found")
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     This may mean that your system is not identical to that we have at
> > > > > CFA.Some libraries may be missing for Miriad installation (both binary and
> > > > > regular)? I will consult our system here for which library hosts
> > > > > "lsb_release -d".
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3. getconf LONG_BIT gives
> > > > > > 64
> > > > >
> > > > >     You have 64bit system.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I really appreciate your help on this.  but whatever is easiest. i don't want to be a
special case
> > > > > > (on the other hand, if we come up with something that works, it might be useful for
other Mac users.)
> > > > >
> > > > >      The easiest way is what you suggested that through the guest account
> > > > > on RG's system and run a script to load and calibrate the data in Miriad
> > > > > and then ship back the calibrated data back to your MacOS (with CARMA
> > > > > version Miriad) for the rest of the data reduction (imaging and analysis).
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am reluctant to install it directly on teh MacOS now because I have the CARMA version
running,
> > > > > > and I don't want to mess with that.
> > > > >
> > > > >       Keep the CARMA version. Eventually, the SMA codes will merge to
> > > > > CARMA CVS.
> > > > >
> > > > >       Jun-Hui
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks again for your help, it is really appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jean
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Jun-Hui Zhao" 
> > > > > > To: "Jean Turner" 
> > > > > > Cc: smamiriad@cfa.harvard.edu
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:17:10 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: installing miriad
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Jean,
> > > > > >      I'm sorry to hear that you have trouble installing SMA Miriad beta
> > > > > > in your local machines. The SMA Miriad beta has been developed on Redhat 5.6
> > > > > > and the lastest version 1.3.1 has been internally tested on CFA-wide
> > > > > > computer system with CentOS (5.6) for both regular and binary
> > > > > > installations. On the Miriad Users' meeting last week, the issues
> > > > > > on supporting Mac and merging SMA components back to CARMA CVS were
> > > > > > discussed.We received positive feedback from the users at CFA and proposed
> > > > > > the SMA administration to carry out the two major tasks in our next
> > > > > > developing and supporting plan.
> > > > > >      Personally, I understand your upset with the sma Miriad installation
> > > > > > on MacOSX/SnowLeopard. Hope, the problem will be taken care of soon.
> > > > > > Meanwhile, what I can offer is to help calibrating the SMA data and
> > > > > > convert the calibrated SMA data into any formats  (either
> > > > > > Miriad for MacOSX/SnowLeopard or FITS for AIPS) that you can handle
> > > > > > for further imaging and analysis of the data.
> > > > > > Please email the file name of your data if this is OK with you.
> > > > > >      Also, I insert my answers in your questions below.
> > > > > >      Jun-Hui
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear SMAmiriad (Jun-Hui?):
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am making another attempt at smaMiriad installation on my MacOSX/SnowLeopard.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have installed a virtual machine (using Parallels) with Centos on my computer
> > > > > > > as suggested by Peter Williams and am trying once again to install miriad
> > > > > > > on it. I have the most recent version of Centos, 5.6 I believe, although
> > > > > > > when it boots up it says something about Red Hat 5.1.19.6, I am not sure
> > > > > > > if that is compatible with your binary.
> > > > > >        Red Hat 5.1.19.6 might be too old. The two type machines that we
> > > > > > have tested at CfA is:
> > > > > > 1) Redhat: Red Hat Enterprise Linux Client release 5.6 (Tikanga)
> > > > > >            2.6.18-238.9.1.el5 #1 SMP Fri Mar 18 12:42:39 EDT 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
GNU/Linux
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2) CentOS: CentOS release 5.6 (Final)
> > > > > >            2.6.18-238.9.1.el5 #1 SMP Tue Apr 12 18:10:13 EDT 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
GNU/Linux
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     Can you check with the linux commands: "uname -a" and "lsb_release -d"
> > > > > > to get the information of OS?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The website does say "Red
> > > > > > > Hat/Centos". (I am trying to install from the "Beta release" site, which
> > > > > > > I expect I need since my data are from this spring?)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have tried both the binary and installing from source and neither works.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >        It sounds the OS of your machines is not compatible to the binary
> > > > > > codes. If you can give us some detailed message on what levels the
> > > > > > installation fails, then we can give a better diagnosis of the problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > One possible problem concerns the notes you have online (under
> > > > > > > "Installation Tip") regarding X11, that it needs to be the 32 bit
> > > > > > > version. I just have the default version that came with Centos
> > > > > > > (/usr/X11R6/bin). On one of your pages you say this needs to be 32bit
> > > > > > > version and it needs to be /usr/X11R6/lib. However these particular
> > > > > > > notes are dated 2007, so I don't know if they are superceded by the
> > > > > > > current ones (http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/sma/miriad/download/binstallLinux.html)
> > > > > > > which do not mention X11.
> > > > > >       That note was for the time when 32 bit computers were popular and
> > > > > > 64 bit started to be used. Now, most of the computers are 64bit and we are
> > > > > > considering to update the information on our webpage. Sorry for any
> > > > > > confusing.
> > > > > >      You can check whether your computer is 32 or 64 bit by typing:
> > > > > > "getconf LONG_BIT".
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If the binary does not work, is there a list of things that I need
> > > > > > > to get the installation from source to run? Because the instructions on
> > > > > > > the Beta website don't work for me. I do not know much about linux. I
> > > > > > > installed the basic development tools that came with Centos but they may
> > > > > > > not be sufficient. I have already had to download a library containing
> > > > > > > libg2c.so.0, that fixed most complaints when I tried the source
> > > > > > > installation, although it still didn't work.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >        I will consult system administrator at CfA for help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Another possibility for me to reduce my data is to get an account at CfA,
> > > > > > > don't know if that is possible. I have tried taking FITS into AIPS, and
> > > > > > > some things work there but not everything. So I would like to try to run
> > > > > > > a miriad script.
> > > > > >       It should be possible to have a guest account in one of our systems.
> > > > > >       I will talk to our system administrator tomorrow (today is bit late)
> > > > > > for making an arrangement for you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am sorry that I don't know much, I am used to installing things on my
> > > > > > > computer but this involves a lot of linux that I am unfamiliar with.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >        Thanks again for using  Miriad for the SMA data reduction.
> > > > > > The problem that you are encountering appears to be general to most
> > > > > > Mac users. It should be our highest concerns in supporing Miriad users.
> > > > > > I will do as much as I can to solve the problem.
> > > > > >        Jun-Hui
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jean Turner
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >